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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:07 pm 
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Sounds like agenda 21 is going full tilt. Pretty soon we will not be able to do anything anywhere.


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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:12 pm 
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Slowly but surely getting the hang of rocker boxing. I place three large scoops of clay material in the rock box then pour in one ladle of water then rock until all the water moves completely through the sluice box. I then place another three scoops of material and repeat the ladle and rock process. Before dumping the rock box I hand mix the rocks while ladling in water until clean. I attempt to keep the water flow down the sluice centered in the box with the arc of the rocking motion. I have found a gentle rocking motion works best for the clay materials I have been working. I processed the last two runs through a high banker and losses were down to three to four very fine pieces. With care recirculating water loss is minor. Two people working together will speed up the processing. I posted five plan sheets of the updated recirculating rocker box in three separate posts on this same forum, feel free to use them.

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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:26 am 
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According to the movers and shakers, the California Supreme Court is set to rule on the statewide band on motorized suction dredging by the end of August 2016 (People v Rinehart). The court requested briefs to be filed regarding the the statewide band on all motorized prospecting and mining within 100 yards of of stream. Hopefully, the court will rule on both.


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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:24 am 
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Just hear that the California Supreme Court is to announce their ruling on the statewide band on all motorized suction dredging at 10am Monday, August 22, 2016.


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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:07 pm 
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The following link will connect you to the courts published opinion regarding motorized suction dredging in any stream in California as of August 22, 2016:

www.courts.ca.gov/opinions-slip.htm

California Supreme Court Published Opinions

The People v. Brandon L. Rinehart SC
Opinion Posted August 22, 2016
Supreme Court case# S22260

In short the court ruled for the State of California against Rinehart; the opinion is limited to federal pre-exemption.

In my earthly opinion the court self-limits their opinion to the state's right to regulate mining claims and the method of mining on federal land which was not in dispute. The issue the court over looked was the state's continued failure to fund the legislative mandated environmental studies to establish the basis of revised regulations and permitting of mining activities on legally held federal mining claim.
The court requested briefs on the current state law prohibiting all motorized mining within 100 yards of any stream. However, the court did not address this issue specifically in their opinion. Either way you stand on the issue the court's opinion is an interesting read on the history mining law and regulations and their legal interpretation.
If you live or plan to prospect and mine in California you may want to look a little closer at the "Rocker Box Plans" . Don't forget you gold pan.


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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:34 pm 
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Anyone tried the rocker out yet?


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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:03 pm 
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HaRdpaCk wrote:
Anyone tried the rocker out yet?




Keep asking, you might get an answer. :mrgreen: 8-)

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 Post Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:44 am 
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I have a silly question for you.....
Would a Gilligans Island bicycle powered pump be banned?
I'm thinking hand/foot powered water wheel or pump in reality.


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 Post Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:48 pm 
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Mike(swWash),
You tell me:

CA Water Board high banking FAQ
Question:Can I use a highbanker or power sluice to recover gold?
Answer: Yes, under the following conditions:
1. The Fish and Game Code, the Clean Water Act, and the California Water Code
prohibit you from discharging water and waste sediment from your highbanker or
power sluice to an area such that it may enter a stream, river, lake, or other
surface water body without a permit from the Regional Water Quality Control
Board (Regional Water Board) responsible for the area where you’ll be mining.
Currently there is no general permit available for discharges of water and waste
sediment from highbankers or power sluices to streams, rivers, lakes, or other
surface water bodies.
2. You can discharge water and waste sediment from your highbanker or power
sluice to land but you must first apply for a permit from the Regional Water Board
responsible for the area where you’ll be mining. To apply for a permit, you must
file a Report of Waste Discharge with the Regional Water Board. You cannot
begin mining until the Regional Water Board approves your Report of Waste
Discharge and notifies you that either your permit has been issued or that a
permit is not required because the discharge will not create or threaten to create
a condition of pollution or nuisance. The minimum fee for the permit is $1120.00
but may be higher depending on the threat the discharge poses to water quality
and the complexity of the discharge as determined by the Regional Water Board.
See below for legal details.
3. If you are diverting water from a riparian parcel for use on that parcel, you must
have a riparian water right or be legally entitled to use riparian water rights for the
parcel and you must file a Statement of Water Diversion and Use (Statement)
with the State Water Resources Control Board’s (State Water Board) Division of
Water Rights for each point of diversion. The fee for filing a Statement of Diversion
and Use is $50.00. For general information about riparian water rights, and whether
you have one, go to: http://www.swrcb.ca.gov/waterrights/boa ... faqs.shtml.
For information about Statements of Diversion and Use, and how to file one, go to:
http://www.swrcb.ca.gov/waterrights/boa ... faqs.shtml.
4. If you plan to divert water for use on non-riparian land, or to divert water that
would not be there under natural conditions for use on riparian land, you must
apply for and receive a permit to appropriate water from the State Water
Resources Control Board. For information about applying for water rights, go to:
http://www.swrcb.ca.gov/waterrights/boa ... faqs.shtml
Question:What are the penalties if I don’t comply with the conditions?
Answer: Violating conditions 1 and 2 may result in fines of up to $10,000 for each
day, or if the matter is referred to the courts, fines up to $25,000 for each day in which
the violation occurs. Violating condition 3 may result in a fine of up to $1,000 plus $500
for each day the violation continues after 30 days of the State Water Board notification
of the violation. Go to: http://www.waterboards.ca.gov/waterrigh ... c178761086
for details.
Violating condition 4 may result in a fine of up to $500 per day of unauthorized diversion
and use. Go to:
http://www.waterboards.ca.gov/waterrigh ... c178761086 for details.
Legal Information: In many instances mining activities, including high banking require one or more permits from the State Water Resources Control Board (State Water Board) or appropriate
Regional Water Quality Control Board (Regional Water Board). Various federal and state law requirements necessitate permitting and notification of mining activities as
they affect the waters of the state of California. The federal Clean Water Act was
enacted by Congress “to restore and maintain the chemical, physical, and biological
integrity of the Nation’s waters.”
1 Section 301 of the Clean Water Act prohibits “the discharge of any pollutant by
any person” except in compliance with the Clean Water Act; i.e., except without obtaining a permit.
2 The “discharge of any pollutant” means any addition of any pollutant to navigable waters from any point source. As defined by the Clean Water Act, “pollutants” include numerous metals and toxic substances (e.mercury) as well as dredged spoil, rock, sand, and earthen materials.
3 In California, the State Water Board and the Regional Water Quality Control Boards (Regional Water
Boards) are the state agencies that administer the Clean Water Act.
4 California’s counterpart to the Clean Water Act is the Porter-Cologne Water Quality
Control Act (Porter-Cologne).
5 Pursuant to Porter-Cologne, any person discharging waste, or proposing to discharge
waste that could affect the quality of the waters of the state must file a report of the discharge with
the appropriate Regional Water Board.
6 While certain waters and activities may be beyond the jurisdictional reach of the Clean
Water Act, Porter-Cologne is much broader in reach and comprehensive in coverage.
Porter-Cologne defines “waste” to include any and all waste substances associated with


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Wow!!! What an amazing amount of confusing b.s.


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